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How to Talk to a Covid Denialist

I’ve been a first responder for more than 20 years, have a Masters of Science in Biology, and have trained in BJJ for almost 3 decades.  This has put me smack dab in the middle of the Covid-19 controversy within jiu-jitsu.

In the past year I’ve been pretty outspoken about taking science seriously, fighting against conspiracy theories, and  how to teach and train BJJ more safely during a pandemic.

(Here’s most of what I’ve written or recorded on the topic of Covid-19)

So given that background I was happy to have Dr Daniel Goldberg on my podcast recently to talk about the Covid-19 pandemic, the denialist movement, and when we might be able to get back to normal

Dr Goldberg is a medical historian, a public health ethicist, a lawyer and has practiced BJJ for 8 years.

Here’s what we talked about…

00:50 – Introduction to Daniel Goldberg
06:09 – On the difficulty of persuading the unpersuadeable
08:02 – How the current pandemic has many historical precedents
12:20 – Vaccine distribution in the USA
19:30 – What happens when everyone make individual choices during a pandemic
22:30 – Why have black, indigenous and latino communities have been rampaged with the virus?
27:45 – Covid-19 vs the Spanish flu
36:15 – Conspiracy theories about Covid-19 and where does distrust of experts come from
44:40 – How to talk to a covid denialist
1:00:20 – Politicians jumping to the front of the vaccination line
1:05:20 – Long term effects of Covid-19
1:12:30 – The BJJ community and Covid-19
1:17:10 – Would paying people to stay home really have worked?
1:25:00 – When might we all return to jiu-jitsu?

In addition to listening to the streaming audio in the player close to the top of the page you can also find my podcast (The Strenuous Life Podcast) on all the major podcasting platforms.

Check out episode 306 of The Strenuous Life Podcast at…

Take care,

Stephan Kesting

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